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    Saved since birth?

    It is not possible to be "born a Christian" or "saved since birth", "born saved", "born a born again Christian" etc.

    All are born in sin. You must acknowledge your a sinner

    Romans 3:23
    for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

    You must confess that Jesus Christ is your Savior, GOD Himself.

    Romans 10:9
    That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

    Jesus said it Himself that you must be born again in order to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

    John 3:3-7

    3In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again."

    4"How can a man be born when he is old?" Nicodemus asked. "Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb to be born!"

    5Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. 6Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. 7You should not be surprised at my saying, 'You must be born again.'

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    Thank you Chad :love: I agree :love: Important statement on the site
    :love: I'm not where I want to be, but Thank God I'm not where I used to be,
    I'm OK and I'm on my way :love:

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    I agree. Thank you for posting this.
    Ruth

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    I did all that once.
    Where did it all go wrong?

    It is good to read it again though

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    John 1:12-13
    "But as many recieved Him, to them gave He power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God."
    Chad is right, you can't be saved since birth. This scripture itself shows that salvation doesn't come from birth, or run down the family line.

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    Originally Posted by used2believe
    I did all that once.
    Where did it all go wrong?

    It is good to read it again though
    hello my friend

    i read your above post and the following came to mind and i was lead to find

    Romans 3:11-12
    "There is no one righteous, not even one;
    there is no one who understands,
    no one who seeks God.
    all have turned away,
    they have together become worthless;
    there is no one who does good,
    not even one."


    we all fall, we all fail, we all sin my friend. none of us are perfect, none of us are 100% pure. we are all sinners, and we all sin each and every day. sometimes we backslide, sometimes we turn and walk our own way and sometimes it is hard to feel His love and grace, He is always there though, always wanting and hoping that we may turn back to Him. always stood there with His arms open wide ready and willing to accept us back into His arms of love.

    Isaiah 1:18
    “come now, and let us reason together,”
    says the Lord,
    “though your sins are like scarlet,
    they shall be as white as snow;
    though they are red like crimson,
    they shall be as wool.


    what are we to do, we are to turn to Him, to sit down and to talk with Him. not in the repetitive prayers said in some churches, but to actually talk like we would with a real friend. for Christ is our friend, infact he is our very best friend. how would you talk to a friend, please give me this and please give me that, no! we would talk openly and honestly about this and that, about everything and nothing, and this is the relationship and prayer life our Lord seeks.

    as long as we have this personal and open loving relationship with Christ, as long as we allow ourselves the time to spend in true dialogue with our Lord, and from this relationship and dialogue allow the Lord to truly lead us then our life is in His hands

    hope this helps you brother

    God bless you in this walk you have returned too

    scrappy

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    Im struggling with this thread

    As I have always believed that babies are born without sin and no one will convince me different

    It is when they grow into this world that sin enters - environment , etc.

    I truly believe that from conception through till early years a child is perfect .

    I am not so good at finding verses from the bible to back up my comments as yet as I am still in the early stages of developing my understanding .

    I would not find comfort if I was a bereaved parent in verses telling us that we are born in sin and die in sin I think that has been taken to literally

    What comfort would that give a mother who has lost a child in pregnancy before the legal age of a funeral? not given the chance to babtise?

    Or not given the chance to know god/jesus Im sorry but I lost a child at 12 weeks pregnant and that child is growing in heaven - straight up there no questions asked because it hasnt had to answer any because it has done nothing wrong.
    maybe im just getting confused and need this explaining better CHAD help!!!!!!!

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    Originally Posted by tracy
    Im struggling with this thread

    As I have always believed that babies are born without sin and no one will convince me different

    hey tracy :love:

    im glad we struggle over some things we read. . .they make us think . . .study on it more and they make us grow in Gods Word and with His help also in wisdom . . .

    Please think about that sentence you wrote. . ."no one will convince me different" . . .it is not of our understanding that makes the Word of God the Truth . . .it is believing and accepting in our heart that God's Word IS the ultimate truth . . .:love:

    that might be hard to swallow sometimes. . .but its still fact hon :love:
    we are born in sin . . .and we will die in sin . . .IF we dont repent. . .ask for forgiveness and accept Jesus sacrifice on the cross for us and accept His gift of eternal life :love:

    Thats the way God chose for us to be living with Him. . .The only WAY !

    Baptising is an official sign of your step inviting Jesus into your heart. . . to the the ones watching "visible and invisible" BUT . .. its not Holy Water! What saves us from eternal split from God. . .is our Faith . ..received by the Grace of God :love:

    hmm im really sorry for you loosing your precious baby :love: God bless you and comfort you and fill your sadness with new love :love:

    I hope I could help :love:

    There will be more answers coming im sure . . .focus on God in this time of struggle and ask Him what He wants to teach you in this matter right now :love: God bless you Tracy :love:
    :love: I'm not where I want to be, but Thank God I'm not where I used to be,
    I'm OK and I'm on my way :love:

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    What will be the fate of a baby who dies in a very early age.. before he is capable to make decisions or differentiate between right and wrong??
    Will he be able to go to Heaven?? or will he burn in Hell fire bcuz He was born in sin and he didn't get the chance to be saved??
    It seems pretty unfair.. While I strongly believe that God is All Just!!

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    Hopeful I believe that a baby or a person who is not able to understand or decide will be covered under the blood of Christ
    I am not but..... I know I AM

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