The well-washed brain or the renewed mind?
Thanks for the many replies.
In an addictions ministry for many years, my wife and I have seen devil-possessed people manifest in front of us. We have seen so many manifestations that we keep a record/journal just in case the info might become useful at some later point in time (and indeed it has on a few occasions). And there are commonalities that cannot be denied.
One example I can think of is this- if your family member was rushed to emergency, having epileptic seizures, wouldn't you take a benzodiazepine drug to quell the symptoms, instead of risking possible death?
In any crisis situation, the enemy will be right there to offer his version of a solution; it will always be presented at one's moment of greatest vulnerability. The scenario you describe is a spiritual classic. In fact, the transnational drug corporations have it down to literally a science. They are masters at "creating the problem you need." And the reason is a no-brainer for those with the discernment: satan wants the glory that is rightfully due Christ and so will set-up situations where he can be the one to receive his perverted version of "glory" -- at your expense, of course...
Fear is the master. Fear is a demonic spirit, given access via one's exercise of self-will, which is opposed to God's Will. Fear is of satan. However, the Lord says,
For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. (2 Timothy 1:7)
Show me the Godly power, love, and sound mind exhibited by one who jumps for the drug. Only one who is afraid would jump to have their family member take the offered "benzodiazepine drug." As I stated earlier, when a person's problems reach a crescendo, they will be in a state of mind to grab any solution that is passing by. People then make pacts with demonic forces. They sell their souls hoping for relief from their problems.
All this is clear as a bell to the spiritually enlightened, but the demonic forces are able to dull the senses of their victims to the point they no longer have the slightest realization that they have sold their souls. People make a choice to accept the falsehood offered by the demons for their relief, rather than stick with the truth which seems to hurt.
As far as your "instead of risking possible death" rationale, your attempt at justification is in line with the majority, where,
...every man did that which was right in his own eyes (Judges 2:25 KJV and many others).
This is because you don't comprehend what is beyond this life, so you just try to hold on to what you have in front of you e.g. your physical life. You think that physical longevity is the measure of a successful earthly life and so naturally you make choices that further that goal.
However, the Lord says,
Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it. (Luke 17:32 KJV and many others).
Because the command to ...love not [your life] unto the death (Revelation 12:11 KJV) is ignored, satan, the accuser of the brethren (Revelation 12:11 KJV) has legal right to access you.
According to scripture, a majority would say they are "Christians," yet they are not even born again. Self-deception reigns.
An easy way to dismantle plenty of the conspiracies is to examine a persons relationship with Christ. We know that sin separates us from God (Isaiah 59:2) - so if these people were truly in bondage, and sinning, they wouldn't be able to love the Lord and have that kind of personal relationship with him. And many people using medication have good hearts and are walking in the spirit. I'm still deciding not to turn back to psychotropic drugs, but for other reasons...
And the words "conspiracy" and "conspired" are Biblical words, appearing 29 times in the Word of God. Look around you, my friend; people on such neuroleptics are hurting. Back to those observable commonalities I mentioned earlier.
If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord. A double minded man is unstable in all his ways. (James 1:1-5)
I have no "stand against modern medicine." I repeat, the gist of the convo between philosopher and myself has been about the spiritual (and physical) consequences of looking to the transnational drug corporations as their authority while accepting pharmaceuticals as a healing solution, the bondages that result from that, and getting set free from those bondages. It's about how to wage successful spiritual warfare and get set free.
I actually agree with a lot you have said lawrenceb. I am just not buying into the stand against modern medicine.
Meanwhile, the slaves who work the hardest are the ones who merely believe they are free. I'm not here to rain on anybody's self-will parade. You will do what you want; for the rest who want to be set free, please continue to pm me.
Honesty is certainly essential, yet it's not a "respect" issue. When the "conspiracy theory" retort is foisted, we know the worldly conditioning is in full bloom. Truth is, a truthseeker who truly wanted such "evidence" would've have asked for it, but you didn't. And I won't cast any pearls, either.
I won't sugarcoat it, I strongly believe some of your views to be fueled by conspiracy theories that have been made up and continue to have a strong lack of evidence. No offense at all, but I am just being honest. I hope that you can respect that.
the use or administering of drugs
Almost pregnant? Here we go, back to the dialetic, the worldly drive to consensus. Your "degree [of control]" argument won't hold with the Lord (or with satan).
Depends on the degree though. ...But the difference is, it doesn't control their life.
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, (2 Cr 6:16, 17 KJV)
No offense, but you are ignorant of the dynamics of spiritual warfare.
There is no other legitimate purpose for any human action than the advancement of the Kingdom of God. Patriotism (advancing the interests of a political coalition) is wrong; Humanism (advancing your own personal interests) is wrong; Satanism (advancing demonic interests) is wrong. Since all action runs to some purpose, if the purpose is not the building of God's Kingdom, then it is to build a rival Kingdom. There is no neutrality.
There's nothing "cheap" about satan. The point is, by being off the Lord by that one "degree," satan has thus been given the legal authority he requires to affect your life. As I've stated, satan doesn't have to kill you outright, he can merely steal your Godly walk.
Thus, no strongholds are created as a result and its just satan trying to get his cheap shots in occasionally.
It's precisely a "quite accurate" response to your "family member... having... seizures" and "benzodiazepine drug" scenario!
So claiming people only reach for a drug when their problems reach a crescendo isn't quite accurate.
It does and there is. Haven't you read my previous posts and your pm's? And there's more scripture:
Why doesn't the bible mention this explicitly? Why isn't there solid scripture to back up most of these claims?
And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with [Babylon], shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning, And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more: The merchandise of...the souls of men. (Revelation 18:9, 11, 12 KJV)
The merchants, the rich men of the earth, buy and sell the souls of men. I pray you're listening.
And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not... Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts. (Revelation 9:20, 21 KJV)
The merchants, the rich men of the earth, will not repent of their sorceries:
sorceries = pharmakeia (Strong's #G5331) = the use or administering of drugs
And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in [Babylon]; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. (Revelation 18:23 KJV)
The merchants, the rich men of the earth, used sorceries to deceive all nations:
sorceries = pharmakeia (Strong's #G5331) = the use or administering of drugs
An earlier question still remains unanswered:
Was it the Lord who told you to submit to the transnational drug corporations?