Hi!

I hope eveyone is well


Revelations

"and all who dwell on earth will worship it, every one whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb that was slain"

Now as far as i know the mark of the beast is only given to people who follow or worship the beast. The verse above tells me that if you are in the book of life then you will not worship the beast - I guess you would be protected. Isnt this a wonderfull verse for anyone scared about the Mark of the Beast?! what do you think?

can i also ask, is the book of life of the lamb that was slain the same book detailed below ( from got questions )

Question: "What is the Book of Life?"

Answer: Revelation 20:15 declares, “If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.” The Book of Life is the set of names of those who will live with God forever in heaven. It is the roll of those who are saved. This Book of Life is also mentioned in Revelation 3:5; 20:12; and Philippians 4:3. The same book is also called the Lamb’s Book of Life because it contains the names of those who have been redeemed by the blood of the Lord Jesus (Revelation 13:8; 21:27).
How do you get your name written in the Book of Life? Simply by believing in the Lord Jesus Christ as your Savior (Philippians 4:3; Revelation 3:5). The moment you place your faith in Jesus as your Savior (John 3:16; Romans 10:9‑10), your name is written in the Book of Life, never to be erased (Revelation 3:5; Romans 8:37‑39). No true believer should doubt his eternal security in Christ (John 10:28-30).
The Great White Throne Judgment described in Revelation 20:11‑15 is a judgment for unbelievers. That passage makes it clear that no one at that judgment has his name in the Book of Life (Revelation 20:12‑14). Since their names are not in the Book of Life, their fate is sealed, their punishment is sure.
Some people point to Revelation 3:5 as “proof” that a person can lose his salvation. However, the promise of Revelation 3:5 is clearly that the Lord will not erase a name: “He who overcomes . . . I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life.” An overcomer is one who is victorious over the temptations, trials, and evils of this world—in other words, one who is redeemed. The saved are written in God’s registry and have the promise of eternal security.
Another passage over which confusion sometimes arises is Psalm 69:28: “Let them [David’s enemies] be blotted out of the book of the living.” This “book of the living” should not be confused with the Lamb’s Book of Life. David is referring to earthly, physical life, not eternal life in heaven. The same is true of the “book” mentioned in Exodus 32:32-33.
God keeps good records. He knows His own, and He has set the names of His children permanently in His book.

The reason I ask is that on got questions it says " All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast-all whose names have not been written in the book of life belonging to the Lamb that was slain from the creation of the world." How was the lamb slain from the creation of the world? If God created the world before Jesus arrived to save us all


Thanks

Slim

Hi Again

something has just come up that has really,really worried me.

save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name

Please read the following verse carefully:

"And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name." (Revelation 13:17)
Did you notice the three things mentioned?
(1.) A mark
(2.) A name
(3.) A number

The three are not the same


And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, "If any one worships the beast and its image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand,

[10] he also shall drink the wine of God's wrath, poured unmixed into the cup of his anger, and he shall be tormented with fire and sulphur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.

Im pretty worried now that if you somehow recieve the antchrists "name" rather than his mark you woild also be damded. Now im sure many of us here have read in books and over the internet of various identies of the antichrist, someone, somewhere may well have got the name of the antichrist right. What if we have read this name? or said this name?


Please help!

God Bless

David

I wouldnt worry about #s and names, the man of sin will be revealed in his time, all will be warned not to worship him, # name it doesn't matter...there is also the image of the beast as well, which is an idol... plus a false prophet with great powers. The saints won't be in the dark when this happends.


Rev 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive [his] mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
Rev 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

God bless

Hi again

Before reading your reply Fellowservant i sent an email off to a pastor i know.

Do you think you could read the following. It would really, really put my mind at ease if you could read it and let me know if you think I am right in what I have written. Ill then leave you all in peace!!

God Bless

Hi Michael

How are you?

If you have time I wonder if you can help me. I have been at my Mum and Dads house for the last two nights because my Dad is in a really bad way due to their marital troubles. Because of this I left my copy of the New Living Translation Bible at my other house. I thought I would read about revelations so accessed a website called biblegateway.com which has a great deal of different Bible Translations. I thought I would study the part of revelations which has worried me so much in the past. I accessed the New Living Translation

“16 He required everyone—small and great, rich and poor, free and slave—to be given a mark on the right hand or on the forehead.17 And no one could buy or sell anything without that mark, which was either the name of the beast or the number representing his name.”

When I was trying to find this verse I accidentally clicked on a different bible translation (King James )and its translation was

17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

This has worried me, as there were three things mentioned?
(1.) A mark
(2.) A name
(3.) A number

The three are not the same, I’m pretty worried ( probably unnecessarily knowing me! ) now that if you somehow receive the antichrists "name" rather than his mark you would also be dammed. However I then read the King James version of Revelation 14 which said

9And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb

This says nothing about its name or number - just the Mark so am I worrying about nothing? I’m hoping this is the case. In the past I have read many different opinions of names of the antichrist – and as you have said in a previous email to me “Anything that people say they know about him and 666 is pure conjecture They don't know and we won't know till he comes.” I just am worrying ( and its probably been brought on by whats going on at home ) That I might have read the antichrists name or said it out loud whilst reading it and this would coincide with the King James Translation

Your advice would be greatly appreciated
David

As to your extra added on question. Jesus is actually outside of time. This is very confusing to us temporal beings. God sits outside of time, and can see the entirety of past, present and future all at once. Thus He could see Jesus being crucified even before (see? I can't even explain this without using time words that probably don't actually apply) He started creation. Which included our time system. Does that help?

Originally Posted by MAJ52653

As to your extra added on question. Jesus is actually outside of time. This is very confusing to us temporal beings. God sits outside of time, and can see the entirety of past, present and future all at once. Thus He could see Jesus being crucified even before (see? I can't even explain this without using time words that probably don't actually apply) He started creation. Which included our time system. Does that help?

Thanks for that, I really appreciate it. That clears that question up! What do you think of the letter to my pastor, do you think it makes sense. I feel a lot better after writing it. I guess sometimes translations can be confusing but i think I have worked out what it means but if anyone has time to confirm that I would appreciate it

God Bless

David

Originally Posted by slimsavery

Hi again

Before reading your reply Fellowservant i sent an email off to a pastor i know.

Do you think you could read the following. It would really, really put my mind at ease if you could read it and let me know if you think I am right in what I have written. Ill then leave you all in peace!!

God Bless

Hi Michael

How are you?

If you have time I wonder if you can help me. I have been at my Mum and Dads house for the last two nights because my Dad is in a really bad way due to their marital troubles. Because of this I left my copy of the New Living Translation Bible at my other house. I thought I would read about revelations so accessed a website called biblegateway.com which has a great deal of different Bible Translations. I thought I would study the part of revelations which has worried me so much in the past. I accessed the New Living Translation

“16 He required everyone—small and great, rich and poor, free and slave—to be given a mark on the right hand or on the forehead.17 And no one could buy or sell anything without that mark, which was either the name of the beast or the number representing his name.”

When I was trying to find this verse I accidentally clicked on a different bible translation (King James )and its translation was

17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

This has worried me, as there were three things mentioned?
(1.) A mark
(2.) A name
(3.) A number

The three are not the same, I’m pretty worried ( probably unnecessarily knowing me! ) now that if you somehow receive the antichrists "name" rather than his mark you would also be dammed. However I then read the King James version of Revelation 14 which said

9And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb

This says nothing about its name or number - just the Mark so am I worrying about nothing? I’m hoping this is the case. In the past I have read many different opinions of names of the antichrist – and as you have said in a previous email to me “Anything that people say they know about him and 666 is pure conjecture They don't know and we won't know till he comes.” I just am worrying ( and its probably been brought on by whats going on at home ) That I might have read the antichrists name or said it out loud whilst reading it and this would coincide with the King James Translation

Your advice would be greatly appreciated
David

Like i said brother you won't be in the dark on this, all will be warned at that time. So nothing to worry about... even if he is revealed tomorrow, the saints if their here, and i believe they will be...will know who he is, and what he is up to. The bible is very clear on this, are you thinking that saying his name is damnable?

It will be the mark of his name brother, not just mark... plus worship of him and his image. These are the things that are damnable...


Rev 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, [and] over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

Number, name, and mark, all seem to be the same above...i think the number of his name is the mark.


Rev 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive [his] mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

Rev 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:


Revelation 14:9 above shows us what is damnable about him...

God bless

Hi , thanks for replying

Like i said brother you won't be in the dark on this, all will be warned at that time. So nothing to worry about... even if he is revealed tomorrow, the saints if their here, and i believe they will be...will know who he is, and what he is up to. The bible is very clear on this, are you thinking that saying his name is damnable?


Yes i was thinking that saying his name is damnable. Just to confirm was I wrong about this?

Thanks - ill be able to pick your reply up at work

Originally Posted by slimsavery

The reason I ask is that on got questions it says " All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast-all whose names have not been written in the book of life belonging to the Lamb that was slain from the creation of the world." How was the lamb slain from the creation of the world? If God created the world before Jesus arrived to save us all

Slim

If I'm translating correctly, isn't the lamb that was slain Jesus Christ? He is the lamb of God and he was slain, killed for our sins.

Another thing about the mark of the beast... in order for every person in the world to worship one person or thing, the population will have to decrease immensly. So maybe the anti christ comes after a massive nuclear bomb destroys 3/4 or more of the population. Hopefully I'll be the 3/4 that is dead because I don't want to see this thing happen.

Originally Posted by slimsavery

Hi , thanks for replying

Like i said brother you won't be in the dark on this, all will be warned at that time. So nothing to worry about... even if he is revealed tomorrow, the saints if their here, and i believe they will be...will know who he is, and what he is up to. The bible is very clear on this, are you thinking that saying his name is damnable?


Yes i was thinking that saying his name is damnable. Just to confirm was I wrong about this?

Thanks - ill be able to pick your reply up at work

Got your pm brother: saying his name is not going to be damnable.
Be at peace brother and worship God, he will help all your fears. Id also like to add that the book of revelation is a book of great promises. Just look at all them great promises to the ones who overcome, this will be a time of great faith for the saints, as Christ is returning to reward the saints for their faith in him, if we remain...we will overcome by his blood and mercy. God will pour out his spirit and we will be victorious through Christ. And all who call apon him at that time will be saved.

God bless