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05-31-06, 07:33 PM
An excellent bible study Brother Jiggyfly, thankyou for taking the time to prepare and give it to us.
One or two folks are asking questions.......nothing wrong with that, but I would council faith to such. The bible is clear when it says "the man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him and he cannot understand them because they are spiritually discerned.........1Cor 2 v 14. What Jiggyfly is talking about here is what Paul Yongi Cho, Pastor of the largest chuch in the world in South Korea (last I heard 200,000) called in his book "The Fourth Dimension". Lots of questions have been asked about...........Dont question......Receive. Do not look at.........look to Jesus. As bro Jiggyfly reads the word our eyes are upon Jesus..........It is what He ...... Drink......"let him come unto me and drink" said Jesus. Lord Jesus Bless |
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05-31-06, 09:08 PM
One or two folks are asking questions.......nothing wrong with that, but I would council faith to such.
The bible is clear when it says "the man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him and he cannot understand them because they are spiritually discerned.........1Cor 2 v 14. Please be patient and kind, Stephen. I'm new here - I hope it's OK for me to ask questions, I can hardly absorb it all by osmosis! lol. Remember Phillip and the eunuch - "Do you understand what you are reading?" And he said , "How can I, unless some one guides me?" So here goes - I've never been to a church that had anyone speak in tongues... and so my attention is drawn to these scriptures at 1 Cor. 13:8-11 - "Love never ends; as for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. For our knowledge is imperfect and our prophecy is imperfect; but when the perfect comes, the imperfect will pass away." I had the understanding that these gifts had ceased with the apostles' deaths. But some of you here evidently enjoy these particular gifts? I would like to hear more of your personal testimonies about this, if you'd like to share. I have more questions, but one at a time is all I can handle on my end. There is so much to learn... but it's good stuff! Thank you in advance - ~In His Peace~ Willoughby |
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05-31-06, 09:43 PM
I like Mathew Henry's Commentaries. Here it is for you to read and study. 1 Corinthians 13:8-11 talks about love being enduring forever. Now, we know GOD is the source of love (Jesus Christ Himself) and that the gifts will "pass" away while love will continue on forever. As far as I see it, I do not see indication of when they will pass away other than the day of Jesus Christ [Second Coming] for sure. They [gifts] will not be needed then.
I attend a church where many speak in tongues as sparked by the Holy Spirit. They do not use it to boast or impress, show off. They use it in prayer. Its excellency represented by its properties and effects; Some of the effects of charity are stated, that we may know whether we have this grace; and that if we have not, we may not rest till we have it. This love is a clear proof of regeneration, and is a touchstone of our professed faith in Christ. In this beautiful description of the nature and effects of love, it is meant to show the Corinthians that their conduct had, in many respects, been a contrast to it. Charity is an utter enemy to selfishness; it does not desire or seek its own praise, or honour, or profit, or pleasure. Not that charity destroys all regard to ourselves, or that the charitable man should neglect himself and all his interests. But charity never seeks its own to the hurt of others, or to neglect others. It ever prefers the welfare of others to its private advantage. How good-natured and amiable is Christian charity! How excellent would Christianity appear to the world, if those who profess it were more under this Divine principle, and paid due regard to the command on which its blessed Author laid the chief stress! Let us ask whether this Divine love dwells in our hearts. Has this principle guided us into becoming behaviour to all men? Are we willing to lay aside selfish objects and aims? Here is a call to watchfulness, diligence, and prayer. (1Co 13:8-13) |
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06-01-06, 06:29 AM
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I apologise to you unreservedly. My post was not to be critical. Many miss what God offers, by giving precedent to human reasoning. "He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant - not of the letter but of the Spirit: for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life" 2Cor3 v 6 Your approach is positive, your questions come from a desire to know, and not from doubt. In His Love and Victory |
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06-02-06, 01:22 AM
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I've witnessed physical healings and demonic deliverences with my own eyes on a number of occasions. I've prayed in tongues many times, with the Holy Spirit providing the words for prayers He wishes me to utter. The "Gifts of the Spirit" are still up and running so far as God is concerned, especially in Third World countries where God is often the only doctor around. SLE |
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07-04-06, 01:48 PM
"1 Cor. 13:8-11 - "Love never ends; as for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. For our knowledge is imperfect and our prophecy is imperfect; but when the perfect comes, the imperfect will pass away."
Hi Willoughby, this refer to death. We are all an imperfect human being. But when we live our life for God and it's time for us to die or our Savior have return. We became perfect in Christ who have saved us. We no longer needed to struggle with the earthly life, we belong to God after we are death or the day he return and that days is when perfection come. One scriptures that tell us that these gift have not ceased. Please refer to Acts Chapter 2. 17 God says: In the last days I will give my Spirit freely to all kinds of people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy. Your old men will dream dreams. Your young men will see visions. Please continue reading until verse 21.... God Blesses those who seek his truth...Best wishes.. Quoc Thinh |
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