What you shared on this site is very interesting. Some of your statements are not far fetched. I have came to the same conclusions on some of your statements. I have studied the scriptures and found the same thing. I feel some people may misinterpet what they read by not taking the Word of God as it actually says. So people read more into it and change the actual meaning. What I am getting at is that in MY spirit some of the things you mention make a lot of since.

I haven't read the whole statement but what I did read I feel others should read. I am going to have a Bible group and use what was talk about here and see how others feel about this. It does feel good to know others out there have some of the same thoughts I have.

Chad, I don't think this Brother is trying to mislead anyone. But, make us think more about the things of God and what we need to look for in this present age. I hope it will not take up until the time the mark of the beast to open our eyes. The devil has been at this from the beginning of time and will continue to lie until he is cast down into hell where he belongs with his angels. We are coming close to the end times and a lot will be reveal to us. You know this and your spirit knows this. Lets keep an open mind about some of his issues he stated. They may be what the God wants us to look for. Like children (not super christians) are we to see God and what is happening around us.

I hope you don't take this as an attack on you Chad. I just felt I should say that. We are brothers in Christ and we need to continue to seek Him and what He has for us. And love one another.
Have a Blessed and wonderful day.

I am going to have a Bible group and use what was talk about here and see how others feel about this. That is music to my ears. :) I emailed the whole paper to you at your msn adress. Please read it before you hold the group as it explains everything better and in more detail.

Here are a few more links:
...there are a several pages on here on why Masonry is devil worship, I only post it for those and have no idea what's all on the rest of this site.
http://www.cuttingedge.org/fmcorner.html
...there are things on this site I do not subscribe to and only pst it for the info on Masonry and a few related orders. http://www.mystae.com/restricted/str.../mhistory.html


A little more on the Nephilim...
The Nephilim, were monsters of iniquity, had to be destroyed. This was the one and only object of the Flood. Only Noah and his family had preserved their pedigree pure from Adam (Genesis 6:9). All the rest had become "corrupt" (shachath) destroyed [as Adamites]. The only remedy was to destroy it (defacto), as it had become destroyed (de jure). (It is the same word in verse 17 as in verses 11,12.)

Matthew 24:37
"But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."

Genesis 6:8-9
"But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. These [are] the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man [and] perfect in his generations, [and] Noah walked with God."
Noah was one of the priveledged few who "walked with God" as was Enoch who was seventh in the line to Christ. Noah was the tenth and Christ was the sixtieth generation.

The Nephilim phenomena didn't stop there, however. As soon as it was made known that the Seed of the woman was to come through Abraham, there must have been another eruption, as recorded in Genesis 6:4, "and also after that" (that is to say, after the days of Noah, more than 500 years after the first eruption). The aim of the enemy was to occupy Canaan in advance of Abraham, and so to contest its occupation by his seed. For, when Abraham entered Canaan, we read (Genesis 12:6) "the Canaanite was then (that is to say, already) in the land."

In the same chapter (Genesis 12:10-20) we see Satan's next attempt to interfere with Abraham's seed, and frustrate the purpose of God that it should be in "Isaac". This attempt was repeated in 20:1-18.

After David's line was singled out (II Samuel 7), that was the next selected for assault.

The Hebrew word nephilim is also used in Numbers 13:33. This name is given to a Canaanitish tribe, a race of large stature, "the sons of Anak." The Revised Version, in these passages, simply transliterates the original, and reads "Nephilim." "And there we saw the giants (Nephilim), the sons of Anak, [which come] of the giants (Nephilim): and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight."

The Rephaim were a race of Nephilim (Deuteronomy 3:1) who lived on the east of Jordan, from whom Og was descended. They were probably the original inhabitants of the land before the immigration of the Canaanites. They were conquered by Chedorlaomer in Genesis 14:5 ("And in the fourteenth year came Chedorlaomer, and the kings that [were] with him, and smote the Rephaims in Ashteroth Karnaim, and the Zuzims in Ham, and the Emims in Shaveh Kiriathaim...") and their territories were promised as a possession to Abraham (15:20). The Anakim, Zuzim, and Emim were branches of the Rephaim. The Rephiam are also mentioned in Isaiah 14:9: "Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead (Hebrew: Rephiam) for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.

In Job 26:5 (RSV, "they that are deceased;" marg., "the shades," the "Rephaim") and Isaiah 14:9 this Hebrew word is rendered (A.V.) "dead." It means here "the shades," the departed spirits in Sheol. In Samuel 21:16,18,20,33 , "the giant" is (A.V.) the rendering of the singular form Ha raphah , Which may possibly be the name of the father of the four giants referred to here, or of the founder of the Rephaim. The Vulgate here reads "Arapha," whence Milton (in Samson Agonistes) has borrowed the name "Harapha." (See also 1 Chronicles 20:5,6,8 ; Deuteronomy 2:11,20 ; 3:13 ; Joshua 15:8 , etc., where the word is similarly rendered "giant.") It is rendered "dead" in (A.V.) Psalms 88:10 ; Proverbs 2:18 ; 9:18; 21:16 : in all these places the Revised Version marg. has "the shades." (See also Isaiah 26:14)

The Anakim (Deuteronomy 2:10,11,21 ; Joshua 11:21,22 ; 14:12,15 ; called "sons of Anak," Numbers 13:33; "children of Anak," 13:22; Joshua 15:14 ), a nomad race of Nephilim descended from Arba (Joshua 14:15), the father of Anak, that dwelt in the south of Palestine near Hebron (Genesis 23:2; Joshua 15:13 ). They were a Cushite tribe of the same race as the Philistines and the Egyptian shepherd kings. David on several occasions encountered them (II Samuel 21:15-22 ). From this race sprung Goliath (I Samuel 17:4).

The Emin was a warlike tribe of the ancient Canaanites. They were "great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims" (Genesis 14:5; Deuteronomy 2:10,11).

The Zamzummim (q.v.), Deuteronomy 2:20 so called by the Amorites.

The Gibbor (Job 16:14), a mighty one, i.e., a champion or hero. In its plural form (gibborim) it is rendered "mighty men" (II Samuel 23:8-39; I Kings 1:8; I Chronicles 11:9-47; 29:24) The band of six hundred whom David gathered around him when he was a fugitive were so designated. They were divided into three divisions of two hundred each, and thirty divisions of twenty each. The captians of the thirty divisions were called "the thirty," the captains of the two hundred "the three," and the captain over the whole was called "chief among the captains" (II Samuel 23:8 ). The sons born of the marriages mentioned in Genesis 6:4 are also called by this Hebrew name.

Man ... Do you have proof of the things you state here? Would you say the Lusanne Commission is involved?

We all know the enemy of God has his own plan, which he may still believe he can bring about ... but he has been defeated for Jesus said, "..it is finished" and in Christ Jesus we are MORE than conquerors.

I wonder if focusing more on Jesus and less on the Illuminati might benefit you ....?

Still, I'd like to see some proof.

Amen. To be perfectly honest, the statements mean nothing to me. Right off the bat, Billy Graham being a mason, so far from Truth as for WHO this man is, a true man of GOD. Look at BGEA. Secondly, this really does not help spread Christianity, aka "Good News". That is the first purpose GOD has for us, to spread the Good News to others so that they may be saved.

This is all "statistical" and judgemental to be honest, not to be rude, but its clearly obvious. This is one fine heavy judgement against a soul that I would not want to be. I've learned my lesson not to judge and I'm almost (still not perfect, still human) frightened to judge anyone, at least beyond a simple "you're a fool, why do you do these things" type of comments lol

Really, this site is about spreading the Good news, Jesus Christ, helping each other grow in faith. The truth of the matter is there is TOO much nonsense in the world to stop and pinpoint to little things such as these. I'm sure the intention is to help "open eyes" but the only things that opens the eyes of lost souls is the Good News of Jesus Christ. Amen.

Iam not that smart to know all this;and God's the only one to his these people heart.I know that when you use names you are painting with a big brush.I believe God will have the last word.

ISA:1 The LORD will have compassion on Jacob;
once again he will choose Israel
and will settle them in their own land.
Aliens will join them
and unite with the house of Jacob.

ISA 14:2 Nations will take them
and bring them to their own place.
And the house of Israel will possess the nations
as menservants and maidservants in the LORD's land.
They will make captives of their captors
and rule over their oppressors.

ISA 14:3 On the day the LORD gives you relief from suffering and turmoil and cruel bondage, 4 you will take up this taunt against the king of Babylon:

How the oppressor has come to an end!
How his fury has ended!

ISA 14:5 The LORD has broken the rod of the wicked,
the scepter of the rulers,

ISA 14:6 which in anger struck down peoples
with unceasing blows,
and in fury subdued nations
with relentless aggression.

ISA 14:7 All the lands are at rest and at peace;
they break into singing.

ISA 14:8 Even the pine trees and the cedars of Lebanon
exult over you and say,
"Now that you have been laid low,
no woodsman comes to cut us down."

ISA 14:9 The grave below is all astir
to meet you at your coming;
it rouses the spirits of the departed to greet you--
all those who were leaders in the world;
it makes them rise from their thrones--
all those who were kings over the nations.

ISA 14:10 They will all respond,
they will say to you,
"You also have become weak, as we are;
you have become like us."

ISA 14:11 All your pomp has been brought down to the grave,
along with the noise of your harps;
maggots are spread out beneath you
and worms cover you.

ISA 14:12 How you have fallen from heaven,
O morning star, son of the dawn!
You have been cast down to the earth,
you who once laid low the nations!

ISA 14:13 You said in your heart,
"I will ascend to heaven;
I will raise my throne
above the stars of God;
I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly,
on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain.

ISA 14:14 I will ascend above the tops of the clouds;
I will make myself like the Most High."

ISA 14:15 But you are brought down to the grave,
to the depths of the pit.

ISA 14:16 Those who see you stare at you,
they ponder your fate:
"Is this the man who shook the earth
and made kingdoms tremble,

ISA 14:17 the man who made the world a desert,
who overthrew its cities
and would not let his captives go home?"

ISA 14:18 All the kings of the nations lie in state,
each in his own tomb.

ISA 14:19 But you are cast out of your tomb
like a rejected branch;
you are covered with the slain,
with those pierced by the sword,
those who descend to the stones of the pit.
Like a corpse trampled underfoot,

ISA 14:20 you will not join them in burial,
for you have destroyed your land
and killed your people.

The offspring of the wicked
will never be mentioned again.

ISA 14:21 Prepare a place to slaughter his sons
for the sins of their forefathers;
they are not to rise to inherit the land
and cover the earth with their cities.

ISA 14:22 "I will rise up against them,"
declares the LORD Almighty.
"I will cut off from Babylon her name and survivors,
her offspring and descendants,"
declares the LORD.

ISA 14:23 "I will turn her into a place for owls
and into swampland;
I will sweep her with the broom of destruction,"
declares the LORD Almighty.

ISA 14:24 The LORD Almighty has sworn,
"Surely, as I have planned, so it will be,
and as I have purposed, so it will stand.

ISA 14:25 I will crush the Assyrian in my land;
on my mountains I will trample him down.
His yoke will be taken from my people,
and his burden removed from their shoulders."

ISA 14:26 This is the plan determined for the whole world;
this is the hand stretched out over all nations.

ISA 14:27 For the LORD Almighty has purposed, and who can thwart him?
His hand is stretched out, and who can turn it back? ISAIAH 14:1-27

Here is the document related to Billy Graham being a mason. It is on the cutting edge site.


http://www.cuttingedge.org/n1082.html


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