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    The Faith of Christ -NC

    Since salvation is impossible without faith in Christ, there are two elements of procurement; Faith and Christ. Grace is the source “by” which regeneration is available and faith is the vessel “through” which it is procured; “by grace . . . through faith” and not the invert. It’s not the faith that saves, but the Object of faith—Christ; we must also realize that faith does not originate from self, but “is the gift of God” (Eph 2:8).

    Christianity or any other system does not effect salvation, for these can only lead to it and are effects of salvation. It is the same concerning that which is of salvation; holiness, righteousness, justification, etc. which are effects of and not causes for salvation. Faith is not to be in these, but solely in Christ - who solely saves. Only that which attributes faith for salvation in Christ solely, is solely Christian. Any alteration by adding or subtracting from this disqualifies it as Christianity altogether; for “A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump” (1 Cor 5:6; Gal 5:9).

    “And be found in Him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith” (Phil 3:9). Paul makes a distinction between two types of righteousness; Law-righteousness and Faith-righteousness. Law-righteousness bases support in self; it is self-righteous or “mine own righteousness”. Faith-righteousness bases support in God; it is Christ’s righteousness or “righteousness which is of God”.

    “But that which is through the faith of Christ”; “Not through that faith which Christ Himself, as man, had and exercised on God, as His God; but that which He is the author and finisher of, and which has Him and His righteousness for its object; not through faith, as the cause of it; for the moving cause of justification is the free grace of God, and the efficient cause is God Himself: and it appears from hence, that faith is not the matter of our justification, nor our righteousness; for faith and righteousness are two distinct things, otherwise righteousness could not be said to be "through" faith. The righteousness of Christ is here meant, and which is the sole matter of justification, and comes to us through faith apprehending, receiving, and embracing it; and which shows, that it must be before faith, or it could not be through it; as water that runs through a bridge must be before and after that bridge through which it runs.” -JG

    Man’s righteousness, by Law or any source other than the life of Christ is but “filthy rags” (Isa 64:6). The Law, which was not the life of Christ but “a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things” (Heb 10:1), was not intended to produce righteousness, then “verily righteousness should have been by the law” (Gal 3:21). The Father intended acceptable righteousness, not to originate from man alone but from Another (Gen 3:15).

    The overall concept is that we are to “live, and move, and have our being” in Christ (Acts 17:28). This is what Paul meant by “nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh (physical body) I live by the faith of the Son of God” (Gal 2:20). This is to be mindful that everything we do, which is of God, is being done not by our essence, but by His (Zec 4:6). Though sin lives in us, we do not live in it but in His atonement. In our godliness we live not by our righteousness, but by His righteousness; for it is Christ only who justifies.

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    Yes indeed, a very encouraging thread, thanks NC.
    There seems to be many who would disagree with what you have said here, but I want to ask one simple question, why disagree. Here is a scripture that may help explain.

    1 “I am the true grapevine, and my Father is the gardener.2 He cuts off every branch of mine that doesn’t produce fruit, and he prunes the branches that do bear fruit so they will produce even more.3 You have already been pruned and purified by the message I have given you.4 Remain in me, and I will remain in you. For a branch cannot produce fruit if it is severed from the vine, and you cannot be fruitful unless you remain in me.
    5 “Yes, I am the vine; you are the branches. Those who remain in me, and I in them, will produce much fruit. For apart from me you can do nothing.6 Anyone who does not remain in me is thrown away like a useless branch and withers. Such branches are gathered into a pile to be burned.7 But if you remain in me and my words remain in you, you may ask for anything you want, and it will be granted!8 When you produce much fruit, you are my true disciples. This brings great glory to my Father.
    John 15:1-8 (NLT)

    Jesus said He is the vine and we are the branches. Why are so many always concerned and engrossed by fruit? Father is the Gardener or Vinedresser and the production of fruit is His responsibility. If we are always gazing around looking for fruit on other branches and even our own, we have to take our eyes off of the Vine, Jesus, to do so, and to worry about fruit, whether it be on our branch or another's is really founded in fear and brought about by a lack of trust or faith in Father.

    I submit that we should all encourage each other to keep our eyes on Jesus and put everything else in Father's hands and in the end we will all bring Father much glory.


    Thanks again for a great thread NC, God bless.
    Last edited by jiggyfly; 10-24-12 at 08:58 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jiggyfly View Post
    Why are so many always concerned and engrossed by fruit?

    I submit that we should all encourage each other to keep our eyes on Jesus and put everything else in Father's hands and in the end we will all bring Father much glory.
    Thanks for your reply and compliment JF. It contains an instructional element in that we're to learn to appreciate God's blessings as they make us grow in His Son; but focus on our fellowship with Them, which is the goal of the blessings.

    "Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the Husbandman (Father - John 15:1) waiteth for the precious fruit (Church) of the earth, and hath long patience for it . . . ." (Jam 5:7).

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    Here is something to give some serious thought to. God calls us and He gives us the faith. If you look carefully you would be suprised.

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    Great post!

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    Quote Originally Posted by farout View Post
    Here is something to give some serious thought to. God calls us and He gives us the faith. If you look carefully you would be suprised.
    Greetings farout and God's blessings to your Family! I would like to respond to your reply but I do not understand it. Wish you well.

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    What a clear and readable affirmation to the centrality of Christ in God's plan for human salvation.
    Thank you for this post!

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    Quote Originally Posted by will View Post
    What a clear and readable affirmation to the centrality of Christ in God's plan for human salvation.
    Thank you for this post!
    Hi Will! Thanks for your compliment and God's blessings to your Family!

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