I'm in the "who cares" camp, myself. But then again, I always have liked surprises...

:-)

I'm leaning more towards post-tribulation personally. Boanerges is correct though, regardless of when it happens, stick close to Jesus and you will be prepared.

Michelle, the "pre-wrath Rapture" could either be pre-trib or mid-trib, depending on when you believe the "Wrath" will be poured out.

I voted Amillennialism, but that's only because I couldn't vote my usual Who-gives-a-trib position.

If Matthew 24, Luke 21, and the first 6 seals of Revelation are compared it does shed a lot of light on the subject.

When studying this quite a few years ago, the verses that made things fall into place where these..

1Th 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

Those who are redeemed are not appointed unto God's wrath. But that does not mean we do not walk through the consequences of the decisions of men. Which is what I see the first 6 seals of
Revelation being. Those are not the wrath of God, but the effects of sinful men given over to Satan.

Looking at the word wrath, then, where is it first found in the book of Rev? (this is the same word G3709 in both 1Thes and Rev 6:16-17)

Rev 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
Rev 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

This is placed after the 6th seal. Personally, I think the rapture happens in the silence of half an hour after the 140,000 Jews are sealed to remain as God's witness.

Rev 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

Originally Posted by Green Berean

I couldn't vote my usual Who-gives-a-trib position.

In times like these, is`nt it considered high treason not to give a trib?

Oh dear, i`m too amused by this thread ...

How about pre-Wrath?
... Sometime during the Great Tribulation, but before God pours out the vials containing His wrath.