Simple question: If God in his will does not allow free will to us and in his enforcement of his will upon us, causes all to be saved. Each and all, no one not saved.David,
You are mostly right in describing my understanding. I'll elaborate:
1). Mankind has no "free will" as taught in the church. Mankind has a will but it is not free to act as we please. God is behind all the choices we make. He directs our steps. I could easily list a dozen verses that shows this to be true. There is not one verse that says otherwise. Yes, we make choices but that is not free will.
2). Yes, all are saved in the end. If one person is lost, God would be a liar and a failure and of course, that is not true. You said you agreed with the scriptures I posted on this subject so why do you still have trouble believing God will save all of mankind?
3). God's will is sovereign. Man's will is not. God is in complete control. No one comes to Christ unless it is God's will for it to happen and no man rejects Christ unless God is the cause behind that rejection. God's sovereignty is closely linked with my understanding of free will in 1). above. Do you not know that:
Jer 10:23 I know, Jehovah, that the way of man is not his own; it is not in a man that walketh to direct his steps.
Prov 20:24 Man's goings are of the LORD; how can a man then understand his own way?
Eph 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
Eph 1:4-5 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
There are many, many other such verses that completely eliminate any idea that man has a free will; a will to make uncaused choices. God is the cause of our choices. Mankind has always done and will always "do of His good pleasure".
The reason the harlot church won't let go of her free will doctrine is because it is necessary so that God does not look evil in sending so much of His creation into a torture chamber of fire of all eternity. If man's supposed "free will" were untrue, then the hell doctrine would fall apart.
4). I do believe there is a Lake of Fire. It is just not the "hell" the church teaches. The LOF is a symbolic location on the new earth where the lost are sent to live and to receive their judgment. It is not literal fire nor is it for eternity (it is for an age of time). Fire in scripture means God's judgment. The seas in scripture represent the lost. But God chose to use the phrase "lake of fire" instead of "sea of fire" so show that the lost will not be able to escape their judgment - a lake has confined borders. All of Revelation is a book of spiritual symbols that represent a spiritual truth. It cannot be taken literally, just like the parables cannot be taken literally. God must heal a person's spiritual blindness before the book will open up to them. It was written for the Chosen of God to understand and no one else.
David, have you never considered all the contradictions that the mainstream church doctrines have with scripture? Those contradictions exist because the church is a harlot and is no different from the harlot nation of Israel that rejected Christ. God's truth has been replaced with the tradition's of man. Spiritually blind leaders within all the Harlot churches in the world have no clue as to what the Truth of Christ really says. Why do you think there are hundreds (if not thousands) of different denominations of churches in the world? It's because they are all spiritually blind and cannot see the Truth. Traditions of man have taken over the churches from everyone's own carnal view of scripture. Why do you think that Christ questioned whether He would find faith on earth upon His return?
Luke 18:8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
He says this because there won't be much. In the world today, there are over 1 billion supposed followers of Christ. How can that be true in light of Christ's statement above?
Acts 20:29-31 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.
Paul was in tears knowing what was going to happen to the church after He died. The flock was not going to be spared - none of them. The churches quickly became harlot after Paul's departure from this world. Christ told Him that this would happen. He warned the churches for three years. The churches quickly became harlot.
Christ tells His Elect in Revelation to come out of the harlot churches so that they won't partake of her sins or receive of her plaques.
Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
The sins and plaques of the harlot churches are great and many. I believe the worst of them are their doctrines of free will and Hell. They make God out to be the worse torturer and evil monster of all time. There is no redeeming value or purpose for torturing someone in fire for all eternity. Have you ever thought about how perverse and evil this doctrine of hell is? It's hard to even think about what it would be like to be in "hell" for more than a few seconds and yet the church teaches it will be for all eternity. Can you think of anything more evil? It is no wonder the harlot church is going to be spewed out of the mouth of Christ and go into judgment. Her sins are great. How's that for a powerful statement?
May the Lord bless you,
Then what is the need for hell?
It seems confusing to me, God will save all, no exception, by his will all will be enforced to be saved.....yet......there is still a hell for the unsaved?