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02-08-12, 03:42 PM
hi Davy, Ananias and Judas werent believers in correct sense. They didnt have holy spirit. How do i know? Bible doesnt say they did have. So to assume ananias did is just assumption... Judas certainly didnt as all the disciples did not receive Holy spirit until Jesus' resurrection. and i dont think ananias would have tried to lie if he'd actually had holy spirit , he tried to lie because he didnt know the power of God. |
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02-08-12, 03:47 PM
A note about Ananias, he like Sodom and Gamorrah, was made an example unto us by God without mercy even though he could have supplied the necessary goodness to lead them to repentance. It will be more tollerable for Ananias in that day than for those who read his account but did the same thing he did anyway. |
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02-08-12, 03:56 PM
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can't think any other reason why person tries to lie to God than plain unbelief in existance of God. | |
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02-08-12, 04:03 PM
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| Senior Member | Possessed or oppressed. -
02-08-12, 05:33 PM
I have dealt with many Devil type situations. There are many examples where believers acted on what the devil was telling them. Such as Peter, and Jesus rebuked Satan. Jesus did not cast the devil though out of Peter. The dumb boy who wondered in the fire, the man in chains would be both cases for being possessed. The fist time I cast a devil out of someone was someone that was born again, and filled with the Holy Spirit. He was out of his mind until the Lord had me get involved and tell that spirit to go. (Notice the Lord asked me, I did not act on my own.) So certainly this man through disobedience and allowing the devil place gave complete control over, even though he was saved. Ananias, Satan certainly killed both of them as Satan had filled their heart, both seemed to be of sound mind. Both however were drawn away and enticed by their own lust. Satan does not get the blame in this. The question I ask as a believer is not if they where Possessed, but why was judgement so harsh? Jesus Is Lord. |
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02-08-12, 07:09 PM
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02-08-12, 08:29 PM
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He soon stopped going to Church faithfully, and started to hear voices, things just got worse and worse to where he could not work, and lived in a men's shelter. He was soon completely gone mentally, coming in the shelter screaming about all kinds of strange things. It was one of these days I was at the Men shelter he came in screaming again, that the Lord asked me to get involved. So, I only have what he told me, and he was such a mess, I believed he told me the whole true story. Jesus is Lord. | |
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02-08-12, 08:38 PM
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Acts, Chapter 5 3But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land 4Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God. Some people act like are they are born again that they unable to sin. Sure they can. Satan tempts all christians. Paul and other apostles constantly preached to help christians not to sin. People have a will, they can sin, knowing the Lord and his existence. This time God was so angry he killed the man and his wife. I'm not their judge, but I would not want to be in their shoes. | |
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