It’s a strange thing to go to a funeral and hear the preacher tell you, "that’s not sister so and so in the in the casket, that’s just her shell, she has made her home going, she’s in heaven smiling down on us, she’s with the Lord now".

Then fifteen minutes later he’s talking about the resurrection from the grave.

That’s strange because if she’s in heaven then what is there left of her to be raised in the resurrection?

Most professing Christians believe that the saved will go to heaven at death. But they have little or no idea about what they will do in heaven.

What does the Bible teach is the reward of the saved?

The belief in "going to heaven" at death is not only held by most professing Christians. People all over the world, of many religions, hold to a belief in some kind of afterlife—some type of "reward" or blissful life after death.

Shocking as it may seem, neither Jesus nor any of his followers taught that the righteous go to heaven when they die! The "reward" Jesus promises His faithful followers are not heaven; it includes ruling with Christ on the earth.

Rev.3:20-21

20 "Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me".

What door is this that Jesus is standing at and knocking on?

This is the door to your mind!

21 "To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne". To he that overcomes the cares of this world, will he grant to sit with him in his throne.

Now let’s go and see what throne he will sit on.

Luke:1:26-33

26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,

27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.

28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

29 And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be.

30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.

31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.

32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end".


Jesus was promised the throne of David, which sits on this earth in Jerusalem, Jesus was to rule over the house of Jacob forever, which is the house of Israel.

1Chron:29:26-27

26 "Thus David the son of Jesse reigned over all Israel.

27 And the time that he reigned over Israel was forty years; seven years reigned he in Hebron, and thirty and three years reigned he in Jerusalem".

In Jerusalem! So don’t look to go up, look to go over.

Originally Posted by ozell

Rev.3:20-21

20 "Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me".

What door is this that Jesus is standing at and knocking on?

This is the door to your mind!

Have you got any scriptures that indicate that Jesus is referring to "the door of your mind"?

Originally Posted by jiggyfly

Have you got any scriptures that indicate that Jesus is referring to "the door of your mind"?

I have a lot, I'm not sure if you can receive them

pay attention

Jesus is in heaven and we are here, we must ask oursleves how does the Lord sup with us?
How is he with you?


try this one

John 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Luke 22:19
And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.

where is the memory or remembrance located?

surely this you will understand

Romans 7:25
I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

Romans 12:2
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

lets move on.

Note the admission of this secular encyclopedia:


"The dominant view in the early church seems to have been that until the return of the Lord upon the clouds of heaven to raise the dead, those who had died were asleep, and that they would be suddenly awakened to be given their new bodies, after which they would reign with Him on earth for a thousand years"

"Heaven," The New International Encyclopedia, 1st edition).

The early Church of God, which Jesus Christ established, did not teach the concept of "going to heaven"—an idea that did not become accepted until long after the Apostles had died.

Jesus’ desire is to dwell on earth!

Psalm 132

1 Lord, remember David, and all his afflictions:

²How he sware unto the LORD, and vowed unto the mighty God of Jacob;

³Surely I will not come into the tabernacle of my house, nor go up into my bed;

⁴I will not give sleep to mine eyes, or slumber to mine eyelids,

⁵Until I find out a place for the LORD, an habitation for the mighty God of Jacob

David said that he will not sleep until he finds a habitation for the God of Jacob.

<sup>Psalm 132



11</sup>The LORD hath sworn in truth unto David; he will not turn from it;

Of the fruit of thy body will I set upon thy throne.


¹²If thy children will keep my covenant and my testimony that I shall teach them, their children shall also sit upon thy throne for evermore.

¹³For the LORD hath chosen Zion; he hath desired it for his habitation.
¹⁴This is my rest for ever: here will I dwell; for I have desired it.

Where has the Lord chosen for his habitation?

Zion.

This is just another name for Jerusalem.

Jerusalem is where the Lord says he will dwell forever.

Psalm 122

¹I was glad when they said unto me, Let us go into the house of the LORD.

²Our feet shall stand within thy gates, O Jerusalem.

Why are our feet standing in the gates of Jerusalem when speaking of the house of the Lord?

Because that’s where the house of the Lord will be.

³Jerusalem is builded as a city that is compact together:

⁴Whither the tribes go up, the tribes of the LORD, unto the testimony of Israel, to give thanks unto the name of the LORD.

⁵For there are set thrones of judgment, the thrones of the house of David.

For there are set thrones (plural) of judgment.

Originally Posted by ozell

I have a lot, I'm not sure if you can receive them

pay attention

Jesus is in heaven and we are here, we must ask oursleves how does the Lord sup with us?
How is he with you?


try this one

John 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Luke 22:19
And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.

where is the memory or remembrance located?

surely this you will understand

Romans 7:25
I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

Romans 12:2
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

lets move on.

So you think that Jesus lives in our minds???