Are murderers designed for a reason? Was Ted Bundy meant to be a famous serial killer? What about Jeffrey Dahmer?
Are murderers designed for a reason? Was Ted Bundy meant to be a famous serial killer? What about Jeffrey Dahmer?
It was Cain who on his own decided to murder his brother it wasn't in his DNA he could have chosen to not kill Abel but didn't resist the urge.Quote:
GE 4:6 Then the LORD said to Cain, "Why are you angry? Why is your face downcast? 7 If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must master it."
GE 4:8 Now Cain said to his brother Abel, "Let's go out to the field." And while they were in the field, Cain attacked his brother Abel and killed him.
GE 4:9 Then the LORD said to Cain, "Where is your brother Abel?"
"I don't know," he replied. "Am I my brother's keeper?"
GE 4:10 The LORD said, "What have you done? Listen! Your brother's blood cries out to me from the ground. 11 Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground, which opened its mouth to receive your brother's blood from your hand. 12 When you work the ground, it will no longer yield its crops for you. You will be a restless wanderer on the earth."
GE 4:13 Cain said to the LORD, "My punishment is more than I can bear. 14 Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me."
There is no excuse we are accountable for the temptations we yield to and saying "the Devil made me do it", doesn't wash with God.
At least Cain understood he was being punished for his own doing and didn't stand there offering excuses to God for his own actions.
We aren't designed murderers or homosexuals or with any other detestable sinful behaviour in our DNA.
God said to Cain "you can master sin". We have the ability to choose not to sin.
If everything happens for a reason and murder happens. It must've happened for a reason or the statement "everything happens for a reason" is false.
There is one reason for murder and etc. It is the same reason you like to argue these wild ideas; man was given the ability to choose. All of our choices interact and cause a ripple effect like stones dropped into a pond.
Genesis 6:6, 7 states that “Jehovah felt regrets that he had made men in the earth, and he felt hurt at his heart,” their wickedness being so great that God determined he would wipe them off the surface of the ground by means of the global Flood. This cannot mean that God felt regret in the sense of having made a mistake in his work of creation, for “perfect is his activity.” (Deut 32:4, 5)
Regret is the opposite of pleasurable satisfaction and rejoicing. Hence, it must be that God regretted that after he had created mankind, their conduct became so evil that he now found himself obliged (and justly so) to destroy all mankind with the exception of Noah and his family. For God ‘takes no delight in the death of the wicked.’—Eze 33:11.
M’Clintock and Strong’s Cyclopaedia comments: “God himself is said to repent [na·chamī, feel regret]; but this can only be understood of his altering his conduct towards his creatures, either in the bestowing of good or infliction of evil—which change in the divine conduct is founded on a change in his creatures; and thus, speaking after the manner of men, God is said to repent.” (1894, Vol. VIII, p. 1042) God’s righteous standards remain constant, stable, unchanging, free from fluctuation. (Mal 3:6; Jas 1:17)
No circumstance can cause him to change his mind about these, to turn from them, or to abandon them. However, the attitude and reactions of his intelligent creatures toward those perfect standards and toward God’s application of them can be good or bad. If good, this is pleasing to God; if bad, it causes regret.
Moreover, the creature’s attitude can change from good to bad or bad to good, and since God does not change his standards to accommodate them, his pleasure (and accompanying blessings) can accordingly change to regret (and accompanying discipline or punishment) or vice versa. His judgments and decisions, then, are totally free from caprice, fickleness, unreliability, or error; hence he is free from all erratic or eccentric conduct.—Eze 18:21-30; 33:7-20.
A potter may begin to make one type of vessel and then change to another style if the vessel is “spoiled by the potter’s hand.” (Jer 18:3, 4) By this example Jehovah illustrates, not that he is like a human potter in ‘spoiling by his hand,’ but rather, that he has divine authority over mankind, authority to adjust his dealings with them according to the way they respond or fail to respond to his righteousness and mercy. (Compare Isa 45:9; Rom 9:19-21.)
He can thus “feel regret over the calamity that [he] had thought to execute” upon a nation, or “feel regret over the good that [he] said to [himself] to do for its good,” all depending upon the reaction of the nation to his prior dealings with it. (Jer 18:5-10) Thus, it is not that the Great Potter, Jehovah, errs, but rather, that the human “clay” undergoes a “metamorphosis” (change of form or composition) as to its heart condition, producing regret, or a change of feeling, on Jehovah’s part.
This is true of individuals as well as of nations, and the very fact that Jehovah God speaks of his ‘feeling regret’ over certain of his servants, such as King Saul, who turned away from righteousness, shows that God does not predestinate the future of such individuals. God’s regret over Saul’s deviation does not mean that God’s choice of him as king had been erroneous and was to be regretted on that ground. God must rather have felt regret because Saul, as a free moral agent, had not made good use of the splendid privilege and opportunity God had afforded him, and because Saul’s change called for a change in God’s dealings with him.—1Sam 15:10, 11, 26.
The prophet Samuel, in declaring God’s adverse decision regarding Saul, stated that “the Excellency of Israel will not prove false, and He will not feel regrets, for He is not an earthling man so as to feel regrets.” (1Sam 15:28, 29) Earthling men frequently prove untrue to their word, fail to make good their promises, or do not live up to the terms of their agreements; being imperfect, they commit errors in judgment, causing them regret. This is never the case with God.—Ps 132:11; Isa 45:23, 24; 55:10, 11.
God’s covenant made between God and “all flesh” after the Flood, for example, unconditionally guaranteed that God would never again bring a flood of waters over all the earth. (Gen 9:8-17) There is, then, no possibility of God’s changing with regard to that covenant or ‘regretting it.’
Similarly, in his covenant with Abraham, God “stepped in with an oath” as “a legal guarantee” so as to “demonstrate more abundantly to the heirs of the promise the unchangeableness of his counsel,” his promise and his oath being “two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie.” (Heb 6:13-18) God’s sworn covenant with his Son for a priesthood like that of Melchizedek was likewise something over which God would “feel no regret.”—Heb 7:20, 21; Ps 110:4; compare Ro 11:29.
However, in stating a promise or making a covenant, God may set out requirements, conditions to be met by those with whom the promise or covenant is made. He promised Israel that they would become his “special property” and “a kingdom of priests and a holy nation,” if they would strictly obey his voice and keep his covenant. (Ex 19:5, 6) God held true to his side of the covenant, but Israel failed; they violated that covenant time and again. (Mal 3:6, 7; compare Ne 9:16-19, 26-31.)
So, when God finally annulled that covenant he did so with complete justice, the responsibility for the nonfulfillment of his promise resting entirely with the offending Israelites.—Matt 21:43; Heb 8:7-9.
In the same way God can “feel regret” and ‘turn back’ from carrying out some punishment when his warning of such action produces a change in attitude and conduct on the part of the offenders. (Deut 13:17; Ps 90:13) They have returned to him and he ‘returns’ to them. (Zec 8:3; Mal 3:7) Instead of being ‘pained,’ he now rejoices, for he finds no delight in bringing death to sinners. (Luke 15:10; Eze 18:32)
While never shifting away from his righteous standards, God extends help so that persons can return to him; they are encouraged to do so. He kindly invites them to return, ‘spreading out his hands’ and saying by means of his representatives, “Turn back, please, . . . that I may not cause calamity to you,” “Do not do, please, this detestable sort of thing that I have hated.” (Isa 65:1, 2; Jer 25:5, 6; 44:4, 5)
He gives ample time for change (Neh 9:30; compare Rev 2:20-23) and shows great patience and forbearance, since “he does not desire any to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance.” (2Pet 3:8, 9; Rom 2:4, 5) On occasion he kindly saw to it that his message was accompanied by powerful works, or miracles, that established the divine commission of his messengers and helped strengthen faith in those hearing. (Acts 9:32-35)
When his message receives no response, he employs discipline; he withdraws his favor and protection, thereby allowing the unrepentant ones to undergo privations, famine, suffering of oppression from their enemies. This may bring them to their senses, may restore their proper fear of God, or may cause them to realize that their course was stupid and that their set of values was wrong.—2Chron 33:10-13; Neh 9:28, 29; Amos 4:6-11.
However, his patience has its limits, and when these are reached he gets “tired of feeling regret” (Jer 15:6); then his decision to render punishment is unchangeable. (Jer 23:19, 20; Lev 26:14-33) He is no longer merely “thinking” or “forming” against such ones a calamity (Jer 18:11; 26:3-6) but has reached an irreversible decision.—2Kings 23:24-27; Isa 43:13; Jer 4:28; Zep 3:8; Rev 11:17, 18.
God’s willingness to forgive repentant ones, as well as his mercifully opening the way to such forgiveness even in the face of repeated offenses, sets the example for all of his servants.—Matt 18:21, 22; Mark 3:28; Luke 17:3, 4; 1 John 1:9;
(source of information - Insight on the Scriptures, Vol 2, pg 776)
They chose their own path. They followed Satan and that is where He lead them. He is a liar and a deciever, so those that follow him will be the same. We all have a choice, we either choose to follow the Lord God, or satan. God gave unto us free will, they chose not to abide with the Father but to denie him and follow satan
I do not believe anything happens outside of God's control or decrees. This is not to say God is the cause of everything that happens but it is to say that nothing happen without God first decreeing that it would be so.
A perfect example is a question that was posed to R.C. Sproul regarding prayer.
Originally Posted by R.C. Sproul
Did God create murderers? I don't know. He made people...who murder. If they persist in their behavior and don't repent, then they turn into a murderer.
There are grey areas that I don't understand. There are people in the world who are genuinely mentally ill. There is something seriously wrong in their brains and they did not do anything to get that way. When they do something anti-social, can they be held accountable? How does God view them? Will they be sent to hell for being mentally unstable? I cannot answer such questions, but God is the ultimate judge. He knows what they had to deal with, He knows what was really going on with them, and He may have ways we don't know about to heal them at some future time.
I think, too, that there is more and more pressure in the spiritual realm pushing people to do things that they never thought they would ever do. Not to excuse anyone, because they also have God's grace available to them for repentance and forgiveness.